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policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting rights act of 1965 and federal recognition of same-sex marriage. next week the supreme court is expected to hear arguments on the affirmative action case which is based on a texas student's claim that she was denied admission to the university of texas because she's white. and police in tennessee are searching for two missing children, a 9-year-old and her 7-year-old brother. both children mysteriously vanished after their grandparents home was burned to the ground south of nashville last sunday. they were originally presumed dead in the fire. police issued an amber alert. no leads. >>> and our "news nation"
policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting...
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romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently just not going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked
romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is...
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here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president offered none. and now he seeks to down play the significance of the calamities of the past few weeks. steve, does he have a point? >> no. what's the old saying? that dog won't hunt. i don't think you can criticize barack obama on his foreign policy achievements. it's a tough world out there. it's complicated. things don't always happen the way we want them to, but they have done a terrific job of handling very difficult situations. they killed osama bin laden. i think they have a record to stand on that the president can proudly go to the debates and argue wi
here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president...
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americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that they're learning more, that their initial instiblgt -- they didn't know the situation was initially, that they've explained it better as they've done intelligence assessments, but it raises the more fundamental question which is why was the consulate not secure? how was it that security issues, as opposed to their stories afterward, these are american lives at stake in an unstable region, what are the intelligence failures? what were the security failures? those are fundamental questions. >> there were intelligence failu failures, there were warnings, mark halperi
americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that...
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i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through a market. the taliban claimed responsibility. nbc's lester holt is in kabul where he's been reporting for the past week and a half as part of a special nbc news series on region and conflict. lester, you have been on the ground, what is your take away on the green on blue attacks and this suicide attack which is different, at least the taliban taking responsibility? >> well, andrea, it's really
i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a...
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foreign policy doesn't tend to be one of the top issues for many voters, even after 9/11, so it won't necessarily help him on the economic front. so i don't know how much it would ultimately yield him, but he's been very tough on president obama on foreign policy, hearing him say, again, something along the lines of what you just plays wouldn't surprise me a bit. >> beth fouhy, thank you so much, and anne kornblut, always a pleasure, and so much so, we'll see you a little bit later this hour, right? >> yes. >> thank you. >>> inking the deal. nfl refs are voted today the result of that vote, on the other side of this break. and a little bit later, the day wall street and capitol hill collided. we'll look back at when the dow took a 700-point dive. that's ahead in our flashback. >>> first, though, with the lead in the polls, can president obama cruise until election day? what might trip up the incumbent, next. this is msnbc, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than
foreign policy doesn't tend to be one of the top issues for many voters, even after 9/11, so it won't necessarily help him on the economic front. so i don't know how much it would ultimately yield him, but he's been very tough on president obama on foreign policy, hearing him say, again, something along the lines of what you just plays wouldn't surprise me a bit. >> beth fouhy, thank you so much, and anne kornblut, always a pleasure, and so much so, we'll see you a little bit later this...
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in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something to that effect. i mean, it was very effective. and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he was too
in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something...
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foreign policy, that is. domestically, the impact of it and prime minister benjamin netanyahu is scheduled to give a tough speech on iran in the next hour, setting a clear red line. is he trying to back the president into a corner? >>> plus, good call. nfl referees back on the field tonight for the cleveland browns. baltimore ravens game. what do you think about their labor deal? one thing that i have learned this morning, you do not tease chris jansing about the cleveland browns. don't ever do it. tweet me at. key r ole throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you kn
foreign policy, that is. domestically, the impact of it and prime minister benjamin netanyahu is scheduled to give a tough speech on iran in the next hour, setting a clear red line. is he trying to back the president into a corner? >>> plus, good call. nfl referees back on the field tonight for the cleveland browns. baltimore ravens game. what do you think about their labor deal? one thing that i have learned this morning, you do not tease chris jansing about the cleveland browns....
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. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afghanistan and fighting a counter-insurgency campaign, were you wrong and was your vice president right? >> vice p
. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama...
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can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or launch an attack on the israeli question, he would look like he was trying to score political points in a debate where he's supposed to be talking about the economy. one of the rules i have for the debates you don't fight with the moderator and you don't invade the other person's space. >> a violation of the newt gingrich rule which was to completely go after maria bartiromo and john harwood at the cnbc debate in michigan and make -- make them the target. >> he was looking for right wing base voters who hate the media. i don't think that's the situation here. when you fight with the moderator and som
can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or...
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will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials. romney will change up his strategy. in general first debates are lopsided. the incumbent tends to recover a little bit in the second debate. whether we'll follow that trend line is anybody's guess. >> thank you, ezra. appreciate it. now to the third person on stage at the debates last night, you. yes, you didn't have a vocal response, but let me tell you, every moment people like you were chiming in. twitter reports today that it was the most tweeted event in u.s. politics generating over 10 million tweets in 90 minutes. perspective, that means just six years, but now some critics say that the twitter explosion is not necessarily a good thing. in fact, politico's patrick gave vin says it's a rush of information by being too overwhelmingly to consume. patrick joins us now from d.c. patrick,
will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials. romney will change up his strategy. in general first debates are lopsided. the incumbent tends to recover a little bit in the second debate. whether we'll follow that trend line is anybody's guess. >>...
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romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >> mitt romney said it himself. >> chris christie best job with his ratings in his term. >> and for my colleague? >> of course, saturday and sunday 10:00 a.m. to noon. we're going to talk about this week in voter suppression and more education nation on the show. >> thank you all. this is the daily rundown. we'll see you on monday. i think i'll be in washington and then we go to colorado. coming up next is chris jansing. good-bye. [ male announcer ] when a major hospital wanted to provide better employee benefits while balancing the company's bottom line, their very first word was... [ t
romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >>...
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as we were talking about earlier, the issue of foreign policy only helps the president. even if there was something there that might be cloudy, at the end of the day he is the hero and governor romney does not have that experience. he was a governor. at least if you're a congressman, you can sigh i served on the foreign service committee. that is his achilles heel. >> even if he was a governor in a state like new york that had the sort of 9/11 experience, but in this context, in massachusetts, certainly -- >> or alaska where you can see russia. >> dig that one back up. >> they can see your dna by looking. >> two problems that mitt romney had or has in all of this, one is that basically as you're saying, if he had waited three days, this would be a completely different story because there are serious questions here for the president, for the state department, for the administration to answer. but basically, mitt romney gave president obama cover on this. so he's got the bin laden kill, but he's got this. the second thing is, both of you just said, yes, this campaign is ab
as we were talking about earlier, the issue of foreign policy only helps the president. even if there was something there that might be cloudy, at the end of the day he is the hero and governor romney does not have that experience. he was a governor. at least if you're a congressman, you can sigh i served on the foreign service committee. that is his achilles heel. >> even if he was a governor in a state like new york that had the sort of 9/11 experience, but in this context, in...
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. >> to that point, michael, they've said that's one of their foreign policy victories. we ended the war in iraq yet at the same time there's so much iranian influence and so much suspicion of the shiite connection to iranians and the fact that iran used their airspace. do you think that this is a safe space for them to keep bragging about iraq or is iraq still a work in progress, very much a work in progress? >> well, what i tried to do in the book with general trainor was assess the administration in terms of what they themselves tried to do in iraq. they tried to do much more than just take the troops out. they tried to construct basically a coalition government, a partnership government in which power would be shared because there's a lot of concern that maliki is acting in a authoritarian way. they did try to negotiate an agreement to keep small force in iraq of 3,000 to 5,000. they did plan to have a substantial number of american police trainers. civilian presence to keep american influence in that part of the world. none of those things that they tried to do real
. >> to that point, michael, they've said that's one of their foreign policy victories. we ended the war in iraq yet at the same time there's so much iranian influence and so much suspicion of the shiite connection to iranians and the fact that iran used their airspace. do you think that this is a safe space for them to keep bragging about iraq or is iraq still a work in progress, very much a work in progress? >> well, what i tried to do in the book with general trainor was assess...